Question:
Is it true that Turkey killed 10 million Armenians?
David Goble
2010-05-05 00:29:16 UTC
An Armenian woman said this. She also said Armenians killed no Turkish people in world war 1. Did Armenians really kill no Turkish people, but Turks killed 10 million Armenians?
Fourteen answers:
anonymous
2010-05-05 01:54:35 UTC
I gather you have been talking to Baris Awareness.



Armenians massacred tens of thousands of innocent Turks in WW1.



Turks allowed Armenians to live in their Empire for 100's of years,then when the Empire was very weak,those Armenians turned their back and sided with the Russians,they were dreaming of wiping out all Turks from the North East with Russia as their 'backup'.



The Russians withdrew and left those Armenians all alone.The Ottoman army arrived,defeated those murderers and resettled the Armenian threat in the East,where upon 300,000 of them died by starvation,disease or Kurdish tribal attacks.Alot were shot or hanged if they refused to leave.



Armenian nationalists want the world to believe that out of the blue a plan was drawn up to exterminate the Armenian race,just like the Jews of Nazi Germany.They want everyone to believe 3.5 million Armenians were killed (700,000 Armenians in the Ottoman Empire),and furthermore they want to receive hundreds of millions of dollars for thier dispora grandkids.
Izzet M
2010-05-06 11:14:08 UTC
If only I had a nickel every time I heard that question.

I have had enough. She said this, she said that. Rather than listening to some prejudged moron just research it. I am sure you will find documented killings of Turkish people by Armenians instead.
?
2010-05-07 11:22:43 UTC
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?
2010-05-05 08:49:19 UTC
I even find the 1 or 2 million that Armenians talk about to be an exaggerated number. So 10 million? Seriously? That can't be true!!
anonymous
2010-05-05 08:05:55 UTC
its partly true; armenians started to kill turkish people because they wanted their own land so turkish people started an inside war against armenians. They both fought against each other. turkey was much powerfull than them so turkish people killed more. but armenians killed allot of turkish people too. turkey didnt want to have war so turkey made armenians leave the country. and armenians have covered the truth they say that turkish people slaughtered us with no mercy. but it was actually a war and both races killed each other and 10 million is not real. the armenians are exaggerating allot. and it has nothig to do with world war 1. we turkish people accept other races to our country but they dont act as loyal as us. and when they dont succed in what they want they blame us and turn the whole world against us.
msy555
2010-05-05 02:56:35 UTC
armenians blame turks for not accepting the genocide

however turks accept that they killed armenians but it was not a genocide

on the other hand armenians dont even accpet that they killed turkish people

what armenians did to turks and what turks did to armenians had no difference. so there is at least one cruelty similar to the cruelty of turks



and about 10 million; forget about turkey,there were not even 10 million armenians in the world at the time. every year they increase the number. the so called genocide thing is what keep armenians together and makes their national identity alive as they are a nation that is settled all around the world and have no commonality. So, they exaggerate it as much as they can
anonymous
2010-05-05 14:35:41 UTC
Estimates vary between 600,000 to 1,500,000. The numbers can't make the tragedy bigger or smaller. The Armenian Genocide was a crime against humanity.
Essie
2010-05-06 11:54:30 UTC
THERE IS NO ARMENIAN GENOCIDE!!

Why doesn't America recognize the Native American genocide? Why doesn't Spain recognize the genocide of the Mayas, Incas and Aztecs. Why doesn't France recognize the Algerian genocide? Why doesn't Armenia recognize the Azeri genocide? I can go on and on. Turkey invited Armenia in 2005 to investigate this issue together, but Armenia doesn't want that. Turkey has opened their archives, but Armenia still hasn't opened theirs. What is it that they are hiding if they are so sure about their false genocide? Today more than 20% of Azerbaijan is occupied by Armenia. More than 1 million Azeris had to flee. Now they are away from their homes and are living under awful conditions. Armenia has to give back those lands if they want peace with Turkey. The Ottomans never committed genocides. Two million Muslims were killed by Armenians, but nobody talks about that. Neither Europe nor America has the right to judge or accuse Turkey because they have more blood on their hands. Armenia wants that people see them as the victims, they don't want that the world finds out what they have done.



FACT 1: Demographic studies prove that prior to World War I fewer than 1.5 million Armenians lived in the entire Ottoman Empire. Thus, allegations that more than 1.5 million Armenians from eastern Anatolia died must be false.



Figures reporting the pre-World War I Armenian population vary widely, with Armenian sources claiming far more than others. British, French and Ottoman sources give total figures of 1.05-1.50 million. Only certain Armenian sources claim a pre-war population larger than 1.50 million. Comparing these to post-war figures yields a rough estimate of losses. Boghos Nubar, head of the Armenian delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in 1920, noted that significant numbers survived the war. He declared that after the war 280,000 Armenians remained in the Anatolian portion of the occupied Ottoman Empire while 700,000 Armenians had emigrated to other countries. Historian and demographer, Dr. Justin McCarthy of the University of Louisville, calculates the actual losses as slightly less than 600,000. This figure agrees with those provided by British historian Arnold Toynbee, French missionary, Monseigneur Touchet, and others.



FACT 2: Over 2.5 million Muslims died during the same period from similar causes.



Armenians suffered a high mortality. But one must likewise consider the number of non-Christian dead. The statistics tell us that more than 2.5 million Anatolian Muslims also perished. Thus, the years 1912-1922 constitute a horrible period for humanity, not just for Armenians. Documents of the time describe intercommunal violence, forced migration of all ethnic groups, disease, and famine as causes of death.



FACT 3: The Armenian deaths do not constitute genocide.



A. Boghos Nubar addressed a letter to the Times of London on January 30,1919 confirming that the Armenians were indeed belligerents in World War I. He stated with pride, "In the Caucasus, without mentioning the 150,000 Armenians in the Russian armies, about 50,000 Armenian volunteers under Andranik, Mazarbekoff, and others not only fought for four years for the cause of the Entente, but after the breakdown of Russia they were the only forces in the Caucasus to resist the advance of the Turks...."



Between 1893 and 1915 Ottoman Armenians in eastern Anatolia rebelled against their government -the Ottoman government -- and joined Armenian revolutionary groups, such as the notorious Dashnaks and Hunchaks. They spearheaded a massive Russian invasion of Eastern Anatolia. On November 5, 1914, the President of the Armenian National Bureau in Tblisi declared to Czar Nicholas II, "From all countries Armenians are hurrying to enter the ranks for the glorious Russian Army, with their blood to serve the victory of Russian arms." In the service of the Russians, traitorous Armenians massacred over 60,000 Muslims in the city of Van alone.



B. The allegation of genocide is illogical. In the words of eminent historian Bernard Lewis, speaking to the Israeli daily Ha'aretz on January 23,1998, "The Armenians want to benefit from both worlds. On the one hand, they speak with pride of their struggle against Ottoman despotism, while on the other hand they compare their tragedy to the Jewish Holocaust. I do not accept this. I do not say that the Armenians did not suffer terribly. But I find enough cause for me to contain their attempts to use the Armenian massacres to diminish the worth of the Jewish Holocaust and to relate to it instead as an ethnic dispute." (translation)



C. None of the Ottoman orders commanding the relocation of Armenians, which have been reviewed by historians to date, orders killings. To the contrary, they order Ottoman officials to protect relocated Armenians. Unfortunately, where Ottoman control was weak, Armenian relocatees suffered most. The stories of the time give examples of columns of hundreds o
anonymous
2010-05-05 08:51:37 UTC
Then read about Khodjali genocide. You'll see less mercy in it. Besides it's a perfectly planned genocide. not a chaos under war conditions.



No we killed 1 billion of them. Since the number of the dead people increases exponentially, few years later 1 billion will be mentioned.



Turkish nation has contributed a lot for the population planning you see. Or they would be a second china in their small lands. (since we cleaned 1 billion of them haha)



it's all false. the exact number is 300 000. but first armenian gangs (with the help of russian army) killed turks. what a courage to help the enemy army, and to KILL the own citizens of the country you live in. Not only the soldiers did that, all the armenian civilians were armed, and they helped russians. They deserved to be expelled. Some turkish gangs were waiting for them on the road, as an answer to what they did to us. that's the sad part. But we cant do anything about it. It was not a naitonal parliament decision.
sfvi☰
2010-05-05 04:32:33 UTC
I feel, id like to do try t on these public boring and tiring unique people lately.
Çetin
2010-05-05 02:41:13 UTC
Hi,

i think , Russian Brigadier General Leonid Bolhovitinov doesn't agree with Armenians...

http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2008/06/2507-russian-brigadier-general-leonid.html

http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2009/04/2803-antranik-armenians-massacring.html
anonymous
2010-05-05 04:24:15 UTC
Actually it is not true, and by the details

you have posted it is obvious you were

talking to a Jewish woman, (10 million)and she

was describing the Holocaust.



Armenians have pretty much all the same accounts, and

facts about the Armenian genocide, and well of course

the Armenian Genocide is well documented.



I am sure you would not find an Armenian today who was not

aware of the entire truth, and their description of it

will be no different then another, leaving one no

impression of exaggeration.



Other then the levels of evil of it and the severity

a survivor remembers.....



http://suburbanjournals.stltoday.com/articles/2010/05/05/madison/opinion/0505fhj-armenian00.txt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQJMfp0Epd8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPBo5HJgdMg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9V1kPv_LGM&feature=related



Armenians are all universally on the same page.



Unlike a percentage of Turks today whom actually deny the

Armenian Genocide even occurred, by justifying what

happened to Armenians as civil war, or simply

they deserved it for rebellious acts.Their stories are

most scattered, and callous and do not

amount to facts to prove why it did not happen

but excuses why it should of. Out of ten denialists,

maybe 2 will have similar views, but all 10

either won't jive, or will be proved to have no credibility...

This is the reality, an ignorance Armenians have had

to endure for 95 years from them. .



Some have the gall to insinuate it was double sided. With

just applying a little practicably and deduction,

people easily find that

in a population of close to 20 million Turks

and an Armenian population of just little over 2 million,

their definition of double sided = total slaughter in humanity's

eyes.

http://www.armenocide.am/

It is just incredulous to me how some of these Turks

can defend the genocidal leaders of their past,

especially under false pretenses like, Armenians do not accept

that Armenian also killed Turks, or sided with

Russians, but what they are

covering up is Armenians have not doubt

innocent Turks were killed as a result of

the revolts, but they are not dancing in the street over it;

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/turkish-americans-dance-in-celebration-of-the-armenian-genocide.html#comments



ADD: Its also utterly insane that the one Russian account

they hold on to for dear life, a confession written

by a General Leonid Bolhovitinov whom the only known

fact to be found on him is he just happened to be a

POW rotting in a Turkish jail

at the time when he wrote it. A piece of fine print

no doubt easily overlooked when they are trying to

claim him as a reliable witness...





The proof of genocidal mentally still lives on and is

so easily noted, when a denialist makes a statement

like " Turks allowed Armenians to live in their Empire

for 100's of years," Ya ok, a people who had lived there

already for a 1000 years prior to the Turks arrival, were

being "allowed" to live... So one does not

have to look far, but right in the denialists own

words to find the evidence of Genocidal intent...



How clearly it shows how desperate and

callous denialists have become.



The fact is if the Turkish government did not attempt to

annihilate all of its Christian population to begin with

like Armenians, those Turks would be alive today.



And that is why the legal term of genocide

has been applied to describe the atrocities committed

not only against those who rebelled, or sided

with the allies, but an entire population.



@sharida bin laden turkish muslim, I would

of like to have given you a TU for

maybe you are really a Turk who feels sorry, but your

SN is just so ridiculous.

@sumerian13.. What??? LOL
Eurasian
2010-05-05 02:21:02 UTC
every year they increase the number of it. Next year they gonna say 20million...I dont take them serious and you better dont eighter.
?
2010-05-05 01:58:17 UTC
they killed so many ( it was a war ) but not 10 million !!



can you believe it !? they killed 300,000 people !!!


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